Muslim Eve\’s Ramblings

September 23, 2006

Two Standards

Filed under: Muslim Life — Me2 @ 1:17 pm

This’s a new e-mail in my mail box,, so it maybe repeated somewhere else..
It really tells you about the two standards in this world againest muslims

Why a Jew can grow his beard in order to practice his faith
But when Muslim does the same, he is an extremist and terrorist!
Why a nun can be covered from head to toe in order to devote herself to God
But when Muslimah does the same she oppressed
Western Women
When a western women stays at home to look after her house and kids she is respected because of sacrificing herself and doing good for the household?
But when a Muslim woman does so by her will, they say, “she needs to be liberated”!
Muslim Women
Any girl can go to university wearing what she wills and have her rights and freedom?
But when Muslimah wears a Hijab they prevent her from entering her university!
When a child dedicates himself to a subject he has potential.
But when he dedicates himself to Islam he is hopeless!
When a Christian or a Jew kills someone religion is not mentioned, but when Muslim is charged with a crime, it is Islam that goes to trial!
When someone sacrfices himself to keep others alive, he is noble and all respect him.
But when a Palestinian does that to save his son from being killed, his brother’s arm being broken, his mother being raped, his home being destroyed, and his mosque being violated — He gets the title of a terrorist! Why? Because he is a Muslim!
When there is a trouble we accept any solution? If the solution lies in Islam, we refuse to take a look at it.

When someone drives a perfect car in a bad way no one blames the car.
But when any Muslim makes a mistake or treats people in a bad manner – people say “Islam is the reason”!
Without looking to the tradition of Islam, people believe what the newspapers say.
But question what the Quran says!


  1. […] I would like recommend a post entitled, “Two Standards” by a sister over in Egypt (al-Mesr), I thought it was real and insightful. The post make comparisons ideas and behaviors that are respectable in the Western World however, become detestable if donned, committed or spoken by a Muslim. […]

    Pingback by Double Standards « Wa Salaam — September 28, 2006 @ 6:44 pm

  2. Beard=Terrorist=Straw man. Who made this claim that a bearded Muslim is ipso facto a terrorist? Was it some crazed freeper on commenting on some far right blog? I have heard some rabid freepers argue that we should profile Muslims at airports, but this is a minority view ( a very small minority.)

    The Nun argument is way off base. Being a nun is a vocation, a religious commitment over and above the the ordinary requirements of the faith. Nuns at the very least make vows of Chasity, poverty and Obedience. These a vows over and above what is expected of the laity. The very dress of nuns is a sign of their special commitment to god. If a Muslima chooses to dress covered head to toe she is not oppressed. If a Muslima is forced to be covered by others then she is being oppressed. It is all about choice. Nuns make a choice of their vocation, they choose to follow rules of their order. No woman in the west is forced to be nun. In some places Muslimas are forced to dress “modestly” on threat of physical pain or imprisonment possibly even death.
    Stay at home moms. If Muslima chooses to be a stay at home mom, well may Allah be pleased with her. If she is FORCED to be a stay at home that is very different matter.
    Muslimas being barred from University because they wear the Hijab. If any public university in the USA tried to bar a Hijab wearing Muslima the American Civil Liberties Union would sue that university and win. Now France is different matter. France is a rigidly secular nation. As am not French I can not defend their actions, it’s their nation, it’s their rules, and some of their rules seem silly to me. But I do understand the history that lead to France’s rigid secularism. Hopefully they will moderate their stand.

    If a Muslim or Muslima decides to dedicate his or her life to Allah well may he or she be blessed. May that child grow up to a light unto the world. May all who meet that child as an adult say ” here is a truly holy person” and may Allah be pleased in all their all actions. May they be vessel where the light of god shines through. The world need more such lights.

    If Jew or Christian kills in the name of religion then the religion IS mentioned. When a Jewish extremist gunned down Itzhak Shamir, when extremist settlers gun down Palestinians religion is mentioned. When Timothy Mcveigh blew up the Murrah building in Oklahoma his ties with the Christian Identity movement were EXTENSIVLY covered. When people kill in the name of religion that religion gets a black eye. Look at what the Crusades did for Muslims attitudes toward Christians.

    Palestinians When Palestinians blow up innocent civilians they are terrorists, when the IRA blows up innocent civilians they are terrorists, when the Tamil Tigers blows up innocent civilians they are terrorists, when ETA blows up innocent civilians they are terrorists, When the Shias in Iraq blow up innocent civilians they are terrorists, when Sunnies blow up innocent civilians they are terrorists, when the Red Army Faction blows up innocent civilians they are terrorists when the Israelies blow up innocent civilians they are terrorists. When the USA blows up innocent civilians they are terrorists. Teror is terror is terror.

    Comment by James — September 30, 2006 @ 8:07 am

  3. Good questions. Let me try to answer them. First of all, when you say ‘West’ you are being inaccurate. What West? Are you talking the US? France? UK? Oh no, you are stereotyping. It appears that you are either ignorant or you are being inprecise.

    I. Maybe because so many Muslim terrorists have beards
    2. Maybe because a nun wears a habit by choice, often Muslim women must wear the hajib by compulsiuon
    3. Maybe Mulsimas need to be liberated because they are oppressed by Muslim societies. Please read the UN sponsored Arab Human Development report on Arab (ie, Muslim) societies about the situation of Arab (Muslim)women.
    4. Western women cannot wear ‘anything’ , and Muslim women can wear the hajb in most places as far as I know.
    5. Maybe because so many people that dedicate themselves to Islam preach hate and violence, or actually do it.
    6. Maybe because when a Muslim commits a crime he yells ‘Alahu Akbar’ and says Islam told him to do it.
    7. Maybe because Palestianinas hate,hurt and kill and when retribution comes, they blame others (For Muslims it is always somebody elses fault, isnt it?)
    8. Islam is not a car, in case you haven’t noticed.
    9. And why not question Islam? It is full of violence towards non-Muslims. Also, have you actually read the hadiths? They tell stories of many vile evil deeds by your dear prophet and his men. Or maybe raids, torture, plunder, slavery, rape and even wife-beating are wonderful if done by Mohammed.
    As far as I know, Muslims never condemn these, even when recorded by the ‘strongest’ writers (Bukhari, Tabari, Muslim and others). Would you care to explain? Do you need references?

    I hope this helps you. Think and do your research. Ask why are those rules about virtue apply only to women. Ask why Muslims can talk about wife beating (as on this blog) and give long complicated and even contradictory explanations that are absolutely irracional. Ask why they add words in the translations that are not in the original? (first do this, then this, then that and last you can wack her… The temporal adverbs are not in the Arabic!) Ask how they can say that the prophet say not to beat wives when many of the best (and older) translations use the word “scourge”. There is about a million light years between “scourge” and “hit lightly without leaving marks”? If Allah wanted to say “hit lightly without leaving marks” why didn’t he say “hit lightly without leaving marks”? What if the women is right and the man is wrong? I know that sounds unbelievable but it does happen – rarely, of course. Does the husband still get to “hit” her (or tap her lightly without leaving marks) for her being disobedient – and right?

    Also you might ask how any Muslim can have a discussion on wife-beating and not refer to this text:”He struck me on the chest which caused me pain.” That is Muslim 4:2127 or, if you prefer,

    Do you really believe that most people in hell are women? I sometimes think they may be deficient in intelligence, specially after reading some of the excuses on Islamic sites.

    That’s all for now. Lady, you take care. Things are going to get worse. I wish I could pretend otherwise, but it is obvious there is going to be big trouble in the future and a lot of innocent people are going to get hurt. I am old (60) so I do not have to worry too much and there is nothing I can do, but be honest and tell the truth. I pity the young and the children – they will suffer.

    Think about these things.

    J. kactuz

    Comment by john arthur — September 30, 2006 @ 8:25 am

  4. Simple, because they are HYPOCRITES. Kactuz is one such hypocrite, I see this filthy racist bastard always trolling Muslim websites and misquoting information available to anyone. Most terrorists are white european males who fire missles from the cockpits of ther f-16s. Most terrorists are white christian fascists who declare crusades and invade countries based on a pack of lies. The vast majority of the rapists, stalkers, pedophiles, and mass murderers are white, its just that simple. When whites were stealing from stores during Hurricane Katrina, it was played down as whites looking for food for their families, when blacks were doing the same thing they called it a crime spree.
    I am NOT a Muslim but am fed up of this hypocritical shit.

    Comment by Dont Bother — September 30, 2006 @ 10:56 am

  5. Thanks for your replies
    Mr. James & Mr. John still you’re effected in your replies by your own media
    the problem in here that Islam means to a lot of non muslims as the relegion of terror,, all those Questions are because only few know what Islam is & fewer tried to read about it from it’s origenal source (Quraan)
    If someone did, so I guess a lot of judgements will change
    maybe it’s time to call (muslim) terrorists as (terrorists only) not more
    if they’re stupidly claim to be muslims that doesn’t mean that Islam is really the relegion of terror
    all other Questions were based on problems which muslims suffer in many countries not only the US but the European countries
    France doesn’t allow Hair cover in it’s schools & University,, while ironicly it supports many muslim countries!!!!
    Anyway thanks again

    Don’t Bother…
    Thanks for understanding but only few share you the same point of view

    Comment by Me2 — October 1, 2006 @ 12:50 am

  6. I want to clear something too about hair covering & staying at home
    usually women are not forced to wear huijab or stay at home
    some cases are forced to… but this’s not the usual thing
    I guess it happens that a man forces his wife to do something that she doesn’t want to
    or a father
    some of the american shows I’ve seen in tv talked about a father having sex with his daughters!!!
    ok does that means that all women in the US faced the same problem
    i guess not
    Islame gave the muslim women a lot more than the laws in non muslim countries did & even before they even tried to

    Comment by Me2 — October 1, 2006 @ 12:55 am

  7. Interesting debate going on… Actually one of the contestent of this debate has commented my blog post titled “Nature of Double Standards of Western and Muslim World”. In his comments he has referred to this debate.

    See my views on the issue of “Double Standards” on this link.


    Comment by khuram — October 2, 2006 @ 7:49 pm

  8. That small text was extremely true. In a few words, it showed the horrible truth. That Muslims are mistreated. Don’t go talking about sterotypes, because the fear that Muslims are terrorists is a sterotype. I’m not saying that the horrible Muslims that are distorting the true beauty if Islam are right. On the contrary, they are the ones to blame for all the troubles Muslims go through everyday. And it is true that most Muslims usually don’t want to own up to what they truly should. But can you blame them? We are hated internationally, for the actions for stupid terrorists that don’t even understand the religion they are supposedly carrying out. That’s not fair. The religion shouldn’t be judged based on their misinterpretations.
    Mr. J. kactuz, where in the world did you get those falsified testimonials? Where in the world do you get the right to accuse the man responsible for Islam of beating his women and rape? Do you even understand this religion? Or do you go around massacring this religion as if you’re some kind of expert? Please, PLEASE, before you claim knowledge of something, YOU do your research. GO read the hadiths and take your time with them, don’t skim over them, read them, and understand their meaning. Read the Qu’ran, THEN claim that it justifies men beating their women. That is the funniest thing I have ever heard. Islam means “peace,” so why would it let men beat their women? There is a double standard when pertaining to Islam, and nobody can deny it. There are many people that do wrong and are outside the Islamic religion, but does their religion get slaughtered? No, but because some people inside the Islamic religion just won’t learn from the mistakes of those before them, and because some of them continue to misinterpret the Qu’ran and what it stands for, the religion suffers. Why can’t people be judged for their actions instead of their religion? Why is it that the religion goes to trial instead of the person? I hope this gives you something to think about. I hope it gives you the insight you need to leave us alone and use your time for something useful instead of badmouthing something a lot of people hold sacred. -Leila S.

    Comment by Leila — July 3, 2007 @ 6:44 pm

  9. assalamu alaikum,

    no updates in a long time? What happened?

    Comment by t — December 25, 2007 @ 4:03 pm

  10. Why a Jew can grow his beard in order to practice his faith

    But when Muslim does the same, he is an extremist and terrorist!

    Because most of the time they are proven and convicted terrorist- or because real terrorists look the same.

    Why a nun can be covered from head to toe in order to devote herself to God

    But when Muslimah does the same she oppressed

    ANSWER: Because nuns don’t blow themselves up for God with guns and bombs.

    Comment by INFIDDELL — January 7, 2009 @ 12:24 am

  11. Stereotype answers depending on the media as usual
    have anyone tried to know what he’s talking about from it’s real source?!!

    Comment by Me2 — January 10, 2009 @ 3:54 pm

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