Muslim Eve\’s Ramblings

August 29, 2006

The Isreili Terrorism Truth

Filed under: Israeli Terrorism — Me2 @ 1:16 pm

*image from 3agabi blog

As Arabs, it’s hard to explain the Israeli terrorism in Palestine in a way the western world can understand & that gives the chance to western people to beat us in a conversation about that matter, cuz they learned how to discuss & arrange their thoughts no matter if it’s the truth or not.
We have this serious issue about how to talk, put our thoughts in points then win a discussion.
In my old Journal I put some pictures of what’s heppening in Lebanon specially for women & kids, I found this reply after from someone called himself Warren Main

First off you are not brave if you are spouting the same things as your friends and family are spouting.
Instead of trying to destroy Israel why not accept it as a free and independent country unlike all the muslim countries in the mideast. If you were to stop trying to kill Israel and its people you would have more time to create jobs for your people. you might even learn to live in peace. In America Jews and muslims can live side by side and be good neighbors why not in the middle east?
Where were the Saudies asking for a stop in the fighting when your people were shelling isreal and blowing themselves up in Baghdad. Islam will not stop killing until all Jews and Christians are dead and you can live out your primitive lives like they did in the 12th century. Even if no Jew lived in what we call Israel, your holy leaders would still hate them as well as all Americans. Why? Because America mean Freedom. Muslims cannot live in a free country they have to have someone else tell them what to do and when to do it. There is no freedom of art, thought or religion in any muslim country. Even in Afganistan who we went in and got rid of the Talaban at great cost to the USA, the people want the Morality police back. Why do you feel you need to have other people tell you what to wear and when to pray. If I want to pray to your God or mine I can do it any time I want and I can say what ever is on my mind to God.
Stop blaming Jews and Christians for your troubles put the blame on your relious leaders. Think about it without Jews and Christians to hate you have nothing else. Make your leaders give you something else and hope for the future. If you do live in the United States and you hate us so much why don’t you and all your fanitical friends go back to your sand box and leave us alone.
Warren Main
Denver Colorado USA

Well.. A typical American…..I have a friend ( Katjusha ) of my journal who keeps reading it (in fact he was the only one who kept following it till I ended it lately) that guy is Croatian, I mean he lives in Europe & as anyone can assume he gets his knowledge from almost the same sources that Mr.Warren gets his from.
Katjusha replied Mr.Warren & his reply was amazing cuz I never knew that there’s someone ouside the Arab world have this clear idea about the situation, explaining it si simple in a way the average Western guy can understand & even much more than I know about it.
So as a THANK YOU, I decided to put his reply in here maybe it help other to understand or explain the Israeli terrorism ( I didn’t change a word in his reply ).

dar mr. warrenyou obviously don’t know or don’t want to know what is happening in
middle east. let me explain in simple way which can be understood by
americans like you.

imagine a situation that you have a 3 bedroom house and decided to rent
one room. so beside your family there is a new member living in one of
your rooms. that person is nice and polite, and of course pays the
rent. after few months that person invites relatives to live with him
and they are all nice and polite but you feel kind of unpleasant

then subtenant decides to take the room, bathroom, kitchen and living
room into its own possession (1948). you see that subtenant is crazy
and call your neighbours to help you kick him out of your house, but
subtenant gets help from abroad and becomes even stronger. by more
power he kicks your grandmother from one of the rooms but keeps her
belongings and of course takes her room as well. you take thim matter
to court (UN) which decides that you and your subtenant should live
side by side becase his and yours ancestors lived in that area some
2500 years ago.

you wait a while, and then decide to take the matter into your own
hands by atempting to take back what is yours (1967). but the subtenant
now has a coalition with mafia (USA) who got him the weapons and
technology. with all that power he takes the whole house and moves your
family to a backyard and to neighbouring yard. you again take the
matter to court (UN) which this time decides in your favour but the
subtenant doesnt bother to even listen the verdict of the court.
instead he calls all of his relatives to come to live in your house
which is now fully ocupied (although such action is not allowed by
geneva convenction of human rights in war time)

you try to make the world to listen to you, but the subtenant has media
at his side, you wait 10-20 years but nothing happen. your children are
being raised in basements and crowded rooms of your neighbours house ……. you become pesimistic and frustrated. then you decide to take
drastic measures like throwing a stone at your subtenant. but your
subtenant is very powerful by now and at every stone thrown at him he
reponds with bazooka rocket.

decades have passed, your family forgot how your house looks like from
inside. from time to time you throw a stone at the subtenant but now he
doesnt only shoot bazook rocket at you, now he takes a half of
neighbours house and backyard, destroys other half of the neighbours
house and kills few members of your family (1982). he lives in that
ocupied area of neighbouring house for next 20 years and then decides
to pull back knowing that the rest of your family is very weak. he
hopes that you and your family are now done with asking for your house
back.and what do you do? you cant go in your house, subtenant watches all
your moves, he even doesnt give you the right to walk freely without
permits. your children have no future and the only sure thing is tha
hate toward subtenant. some of youths who are so desperate decide to
take a bomb into one of the rooms but after every bomb your subtenant
redecorates the room. you see your subtenant every day and he is your

then you say ok (1991), lets split the house as it was split by court
(UN)decision in 1948, but subtenant must leave the part of house which
belongs to you. subtenant agrees but does very little about it, and
with many demands which you must obey in advance. since 1991 to this
date, you cant enter your part of the devided house.

that is israeli justice.

so mr. warren, dont blame islam for wars in middle east. it’s not islam
who wants to destroy christianity and judaism. as christian i’m not
even a bit threatened by islam. the problem is in imperialistic minds
of some western powers and israel. leave this people alone, and there
wont be any 911 problems and terrorists. after all majority of those
¨terrorists˝ were financed and suported by your country

….. financed and suported by your country when your country needed
them. so first take the garbage from your yard and then criticise on
your neighbours.

zagreb, croatia

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  1. salam..
    actually i’m from malaysia.. its normal for some people from western to blame islam when talking about israel and palestine issue… but its such a good reason for such a person like katjusha to look this matter as a human… its doen’t related to the religious…it wasa human right to keep their own land !!! so to all people …doen’t matter what is ur religious.. please look and talk this issue as human issue… it happen like what have happen to bosnia too.. the palestine force to againt the israel through hamas because ..their see its was the solution to make deaf people like israel gov.. to move out from their land.

    Comment by HAZAnariah — August 30, 2006 @ 9:32 am

  2. From what I can see Warren’s comments if reproduced correctly in this post show that he is not a native speaker of the English language. The structure and idiom that Warren uses in his sentences are not of the type that one would except from a native speaker. Having said that he might just be someone who has very bad English.

    I think that it is sometimes very difficult for Muslims to see why people in the West cannot see current affairs such as those in Palestine/Israel through Muslim eyes. There is a very simple and important reason for this which is they are not Muslim. Why should you expect them to have any sympathy for your viewpoint ?

    Comment by Kashmiri Nomad — August 30, 2006 @ 10:45 pm

  3. Salam HAZAnariah
    after reading Katjusha’s reply I said : here’s someone who’s not brainwashed yet,, I’m sure there’ll be others in shaa allah

    Kashmiri Nomad
    feeling sympathy is very much related to (being human), it has nothing to do with religion, people there feel sympathy for dogs, but muslims.. nooooo!!!
    ofcourse there’s this stupid Idea like warren said :

    Islam will not stop killing until all Jews and Christians are dead

    come on, we all know it’s about the Israeli policy & the support of the U.S.
    as muslim respect the judaism & christianity

    Comment by Me2 — August 31, 2006 @ 5:16 am

  4. There are those of us in the west and the U.S specifically that do want to understand the Muslem position and who are wanting and willing to look at isreal with open eyes. Many Americans would have more sympathy for Palestinians if they knew better the true history of how the modern Isreali state came into being and the wrongs that were done to the people who had stayed there for the last 2,000 yerars. The very same Americans who came to sympathy and even guilt for what was done to the Native Americans over the previous four hundred years and the same for african Americans, if they knew about Deir Yassin and other villages in 1948. Unfortunately as the course of acts starting with tghe 1972 Olympics and since have blinded the eyes of nearly all Americans to the Palestinian cause. Had the Palestinians taken a page from the book of peaceful protest like Ggandhi and Martin Luther King Jr.

    Comment by Anonymous — January 27, 2007 @ 2:24 am

  5. You failed to mention in your hypothetical story that the house with the room that you were renting out was actually stolen in the first place from the people you rented to! Even though it was stolen by brute force, they agreed to pay you for the property since you had already lived there for awhile.

    The truth is that Israel has every right to exist and the so called “refugees” were simply squatters on Jewish land in the first place.

    Comment by Ahmed — July 2, 2008 @ 4:34 pm

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